1 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:21,830 [Music] 2 00:00:44,540 --> 00:00:42,630 explode the bazaar or e-ticket ride into 3 00:00:47,820 --> 00:00:44,550 the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:52,130 --> 00:00:47,830 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:56,580 --> 00:00:52,140 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:01:00,720 --> 00:00:56,590 ghosts Lost Worlds cryptozoology waters 7 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:00,730 as well as other dimensions it's time to 8 00:01:07,469 --> 00:01:05,290 take back the night now you are 9 00:01:13,639 --> 00:01:07,479 electrifying hosts of exploring the 10 00:01:23,100 --> 00:01:20,330 Gus Scooby it sure seems spooky out here 11 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:23,110 despite a full moon it's really dark 12 00:01:29,279 --> 00:01:25,090 you could almost expect something really 13 00:01:32,639 --> 00:01:29,289 horrifying to jump out at you Oh Tim 14 00:01:35,969 --> 00:01:32,649 stop being so paranoid you're really on 15 00:01:37,020 --> 00:01:35,979 edge I've never seen you so jumpy what's 16 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:37,030 gotten into you 17 00:01:43,469 --> 00:01:40,210 well Peter Bernard our YouTube producer 18 00:01:45,570 --> 00:01:43,479 did say that his arch nemesis dog man 19 00:01:51,770 --> 00:01:45,580 has been frightening hikers and couples 20 00:01:59,640 --> 00:01:56,249 nonsense sounds like pure folklore to me 21 00:02:03,510 --> 00:01:59,650 do you sue any dog men lurking about 22 00:02:05,249 --> 00:02:03,520 come on you mean like the one that's 23 00:02:07,140 --> 00:02:05,259 been following us for the last five 24 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:07,150 minutes 25 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:10,330 yeah I hadn't noticed it until you 26 00:02:19,710 --> 00:02:14,080 pointed it out but you can't be so 27 00:02:22,530 --> 00:02:19,720 afraid of sharp teeth and long claws but 28 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:22,540 maybe you're right I guess we should get 29 00:02:27,570 --> 00:02:24,970 back to the safety of the KC our studio 30 00:02:29,970 --> 00:02:27,580 and beat it out of here our guest 31 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:29,980 tonight is an expert on monsters you 32 00:02:35,010 --> 00:02:31,570 should have asked him in advance how to 33 00:02:37,590 --> 00:02:35,020 protect ourselves against oh dog man I 34 00:02:45,060 --> 00:02:37,600 wish he stopped wagging that that hell 35 00:02:47,070 --> 00:02:45,070 it doesn't seem too friendly did you 36 00:02:50,370 --> 00:02:47,080 make it back to him he did it it's just 37 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:50,380 this now just oh oh okay I've made it 38 00:02:56,970 --> 00:02:52,150 back but my ears have been clipped a 39 00:02:59,220 --> 00:02:56,980 little and my dog biscuit and my dog 40 00:03:02,220 --> 00:02:59,230 biscuits are missing your Scooby Snacks 41 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:02,230 I don't I don't know I don't know what 42 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:04,330 happened to him I I was carrying him in 43 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:07,090 the meadow it was this hot breath on my 44 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:11,410 on my neck and I had a fight do it to 45 00:03:17,220 --> 00:03:14,170 get get back here on this trip you know 46 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:17,230 I mean Las Vegas you're always safe 47 00:03:26,699 --> 00:03:23,290 there I am if you if you stay out of the 48 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:26,709 strip and more along where our studios 49 00:03:38,820 --> 00:03:33,850 are well they're indeed well we're back 50 00:03:41,070 --> 00:03:38,830 and and I think the show should begin 51 00:03:43,650 --> 00:03:41,080 now that we've left left dog men and 52 00:03:46,229 --> 00:03:43,660 behind although he could pop up at any 53 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:46,239 time during the next hour I would guess 54 00:03:52,890 --> 00:03:49,890 yeah well that's a good possibility and 55 00:03:57,810 --> 00:03:52,900 probably wants to meet our guest Jason 56 00:04:00,500 --> 00:03:57,820 Offutt now Jason is a returning guest on 57 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:00,510 our show and it's it's been a while and 58 00:04:09,090 --> 00:04:06,220 always always happy to have Jason you 59 00:04:12,750 --> 00:04:09,100 know on to talk to us because I mean he 60 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:12,760 he has done so many things I mean he's 61 00:04:18,349 --> 00:04:14,650 written some absolutely fantastic books 62 00:04:20,809 --> 00:04:18,359 he's made epic beer runs 63 00:04:21,740 --> 00:04:20,819 and just all in all a really interesting 64 00:04:24,619 --> 00:04:21,750 guest 65 00:04:27,709 --> 00:04:24,629 now Jason grew up on a farm near the 66 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:27,719 little town of Orrick Missouri and in 67 00:04:31,730 --> 00:04:29,610 his life he's been a farmhand a 68 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:31,740 journalist a photographer a bartender 69 00:04:37,339 --> 00:04:34,289 and a mayor of that very same small town 70 00:04:39,619 --> 00:04:37,349 now Jason teaches journalism at 71 00:04:42,350 --> 00:04:39,629 Northwest Missouri State University in 72 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:42,360 Maryville and keeps the world safe from 73 00:04:46,909 --> 00:04:45,000 the forces of evil now jason says that 74 00:04:49,909 --> 00:04:46,919 he was a nerd as a kid and look for a 75 00:04:52,219 --> 00:04:49,919 sasquatch footprints in his yard UFOs 76 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:52,229 over the farmhouse and even says that 77 00:04:58,610 --> 00:04:54,900 one night his whole family saw something 78 00:05:01,100 --> 00:04:58,620 that shouldn't couldn't have been in the 79 00:05:03,740 --> 00:05:01,110 sky and one afternoon he says that he 80 00:05:07,969 --> 00:05:03,750 saw a full-bodied apparition that stared 81 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:07,979 at him through hollow eyes now Jason is 82 00:05:11,059 --> 00:05:10,289 the author of such books as paranormal 83 00:05:14,269 --> 00:05:11,069 Missouri 84 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:14,279 show me your monsters darkness walks the 85 00:05:20,149 --> 00:05:17,520 shadow people among us what lurks beyond 86 00:05:23,329 --> 00:05:20,159 the paranormal in your backyard how to 87 00:05:26,029 --> 00:05:23,339 kill monsters using common household 88 00:05:30,290 --> 00:05:26,039 item ins and his most recent book 89 00:05:33,499 --> 00:05:30,300 chasing American monsters 250 creatures 90 00:05:34,909 --> 00:05:33,509 cryptids and hairy beasts so Jason 91 00:05:37,550 --> 00:05:34,919 welcome back to explore the bizarre 92 00:05:40,459 --> 00:05:37,560 thank you for having me back I'm sorry I 93 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:40,469 was I was off setting a trap for old mr. 94 00:05:56,769 --> 00:05:51,140 show me your monster monsters sounds 95 00:06:05,869 --> 00:05:56,779 almost x-rated I don't know I wasn't 96 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:05,879 going there tonight and dive right in we 97 00:06:14,089 --> 00:06:09,360 had a hairy a werewolf and one of our 98 00:06:16,999 --> 00:06:14,099 movies driller so you know we take it we 99 00:06:20,829 --> 00:06:17,009 take it as they come I so to speak 100 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:20,839 anyway hey I see so you had UFO wood 101 00:06:27,980 --> 00:06:24,930 sighting when you were a youngster 102 00:06:31,219 --> 00:06:27,990 let's get I excuse the expression get 103 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:31,229 off the ground with that one and and and 104 00:06:34,820 --> 00:06:32,310 tell us a little bit 105 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:34,830 about it and how it led to your 106 00:06:42,530 --> 00:06:38,250 interests and all these other unusual 107 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:42,540 things I mean you know I going back to I 108 00:06:49,630 --> 00:06:45,510 suppose when you were younger 109 00:06:53,390 --> 00:06:49,640 the connection between Bigfoot and UFOs 110 00:06:56,690 --> 00:06:53,400 was tenuous if it existed at all and now 111 00:07:00,170 --> 00:06:56,700 a lot of people seem to kind of lump it 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:00,180 together so anyway take us take us back 113 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,370 to yonder years and when and where did 114 00:07:10,060 --> 00:07:07,440 all this happen well I would have been 115 00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:10,070 about 15 years old so it would have been 116 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:13,740 1980 yeah it would have been 1980 and it 117 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:15,710 was on night it was it was on the farm 118 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:17,610 yeah one of the great things about 119 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:19,650 growing up out in the middle of nowhere 120 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:24,270 is that on a summer summer evening you 121 00:07:29,660 --> 00:07:26,610 can go out and in the darkness and you 122 00:07:31,790 --> 00:07:29,670 can see stars forever and I would spend 123 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:31,800 lots of time looking looking up in the 124 00:07:36,740 --> 00:07:35,130 stars I'd I actually knew most knew a 125 00:07:38,350 --> 00:07:36,750 whole ton of constellations at that 126 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:38,360 point can't remember most of them now 127 00:07:43,340 --> 00:07:41,730 but yeah I used to spend a lot of time 128 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:43,350 looking at the sky but this didn't this 129 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:45,840 didn't start with me it was it was with 130 00:07:51,740 --> 00:07:50,490 my dad and he had been actually this was 131 00:07:53,090 --> 00:07:51,750 probably not in the summer this was 132 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:53,100 probably in the spring because I think 133 00:07:58,310 --> 00:07:56,490 he was out all night planning he would 134 00:08:00,470 --> 00:07:58,320 it was about 10 o'clock when he when he 135 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:00,480 got home and we had mom and I heard his 136 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:03,150 heard his truck pull in and shut off and 137 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:05,580 and he didn't come in the house and he 138 00:08:08,570 --> 00:08:06,930 didn't come in the house and he didn't 139 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:08,580 come in the house and finally mom was 140 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:10,890 like go check on your dad so if it had 141 00:08:15,170 --> 00:08:12,930 been the dog man outside good eatin my 142 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:15,180 father mom was just making sure that it 143 00:08:20,930 --> 00:08:16,800 wasn't her to get eaten next she sent me 144 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:20,940 out and mmhmm yeah he was just standing 145 00:08:27,230 --> 00:08:23,310 at the side of his pickup leaning on his 146 00:08:31,370 --> 00:08:27,240 pickup and he was looking just out in 147 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:31,380 this in the sky and I walked over to him 148 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:34,410 and I thought he was looking at the 149 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:36,650 house across across the field we had a 150 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:39,090 our closest neighbor was about well 151 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:42,870 three quarters of a mile away across a 152 00:08:45,630 --> 00:08:45,300 farm field and but he wasn't he was 153 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:45,640 looking 154 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:47,290 up in the sky and he said hey Jason look 155 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:48,820 at that over the field you do you see 156 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:51,340 that and I stood there and I stood there 157 00:08:57,810 --> 00:08:53,440 and I looked and I looked and yeah I saw 158 00:09:00,330 --> 00:08:57,820 it it was a black spot it was like you 159 00:09:02,670 --> 00:09:00,340 know somebody taking a whole punch and 160 00:09:06,030 --> 00:09:02,680 punched a hole in the sky was just a 161 00:09:07,890 --> 00:09:06,040 black big black circle and I'm like oh 162 00:09:10,980 --> 00:09:07,900 wow what do you think that is of course 163 00:09:12,390 --> 00:09:10,990 he was like I don't know but it also 164 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:12,400 made a noise and it was a humming noise 165 00:09:17,670 --> 00:09:14,170 and we stood there for a while and 166 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:17,680 finally mom came out and she saw it as 167 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:21,610 well and a little bit after that the 168 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:24,190 phone rang and of course back then they 169 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:25,960 were all the phones were connected to 170 00:09:32,730 --> 00:09:28,690 walls so I went in to answer the phone 171 00:09:34,590 --> 00:09:32,740 and and the neighbor across the field it 172 00:09:37,230 --> 00:09:34,600 was him and he's like hey do you see 173 00:09:40,380 --> 00:09:37,240 that black thing in the sky hovering 174 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:40,390 over the field so it wasn't just us it 175 00:09:44,310 --> 00:09:42,520 was him who saw that too and and mom 176 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:44,320 went in the house and I just stood out 177 00:09:48,330 --> 00:09:45,360 there with dad for a while 178 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:48,340 and eventually the thing got smaller and 179 00:09:54,150 --> 00:09:50,910 smaller and smaller until it disappeared 180 00:09:59,010 --> 00:09:54,160 yeah no clue what that was but I would 181 00:10:01,970 --> 00:09:59,020 say that son unidentified mm-hmm sure 182 00:10:04,380 --> 00:10:01,980 well it seems like it today there was a 183 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:04,390 photograph or similar to that the 184 00:10:11,250 --> 00:10:07,090 newspaper they were calling it a black 185 00:10:13,470 --> 00:10:11,260 hole in space you know I remember eight 186 00:10:17,100 --> 00:10:13,480 years ago we were told that there had 187 00:10:20,070 --> 00:10:17,110 been a little UFO a conference and one 188 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:20,080 of the state parks in the Arizona and 189 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:23,170 and someone told us to go out to the 190 00:10:28,590 --> 00:10:25,570 desert you know like around midnight and 191 00:10:31,230 --> 00:10:28,600 and this big objects was this object was 192 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:31,240 almost guaranteed to come over and it 193 00:10:36,420 --> 00:10:33,610 was going to be shaped like a like a 194 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:36,430 donut that was that was kind of like you 195 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:39,250 know Maury island back there in 196 00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:43,870 Washington state back in 1947 and there 197 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:45,910 have been a few objects like that I 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:47,890 remember one even over in New York that 199 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:51,370 somebody took a picture of but it's kind 200 00:10:58,650 --> 00:10:54,570 of a rarity when you compare it to the 201 00:10:59,430 --> 00:10:58,660 disks and the pie pans and the lights in 202 00:11:15,570 --> 00:10:59,440 the 203 00:11:17,580 --> 00:11:15,580 we were about an hour drive at that 204 00:11:19,170 --> 00:11:17,590 point from from the nearest big town 205 00:11:21,390 --> 00:11:19,180 which was Kansas City Missouri 206 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:21,400 we had a certain few smaller papers in 207 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:23,110 the area but they didn't cover anything 208 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:26,230 like that but it did I mean it could 209 00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:27,910 have been a disc I mean it was it was a 210 00:11:33,180 --> 00:11:30,670 round hole but I mean I call it a hole 211 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:33,190 just because it was black it could have 212 00:11:37,290 --> 00:11:35,530 been a you know a disc you know a disc 213 00:11:39,030 --> 00:11:37,300 out there it just it was black blacking 214 00:11:41,610 --> 00:11:39,040 blanking out the stars it was it was 215 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:41,620 hiding the stars from us well when it 216 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:44,250 disappear did it go straight up or just 217 00:11:49,890 --> 00:11:47,050 disappear like somebody shot the shut 218 00:11:51,030 --> 00:11:49,900 off the lights no yeah I said disappear 219 00:11:53,010 --> 00:11:51,040 I probably probably shouldn't have done 220 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:53,020 that it was it got smaller smaller I had 221 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:56,110 the impression that it was it was going 222 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:57,850 up just going straight up because it 223 00:12:02,370 --> 00:11:59,200 kept getting smaller and smaller until 224 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:02,380 it was gone so that would that happened 225 00:12:11,550 --> 00:12:05,680 when you were about 15 how did that lead 226 00:12:14,730 --> 00:12:11,560 to your interest in in my monsters well 227 00:12:17,340 --> 00:12:14,740 it's that actually didn't I was 228 00:12:21,210 --> 00:12:17,350 interested in everything before that I 229 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:21,220 was I had gobbled up everything I could 230 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:23,910 I could get any books I could get on 231 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:28,690 UFOs on Bigfoot Loch Ness monster ghosts 232 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:31,750 I'd already read Chariots of the Gods 233 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:36,490 and and gosh the second the second book 234 00:12:41,790 --> 00:12:39,450 he'd fire von Daniken had written yeah 235 00:12:43,950 --> 00:12:41,800 Leo I saw I know I was already familiar 236 00:12:45,630 --> 00:12:43,960 with all that I was that was just some 237 00:12:47,250 --> 00:12:45,640 justification to me that hey you know I 238 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:47,260 haven't been wasting my time like my 239 00:12:56,850 --> 00:12:54,850 parents said all our parents say that my 240 00:13:01,500 --> 00:12:56,860 my mother I think at some point said I 241 00:13:03,660 --> 00:13:01,510 should get a job on the the assembly 242 00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:03,670 line you know I think it was Florida or 243 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:06,480 something that had a plant there well 244 00:13:12,990 --> 00:13:08,950 they're long since out of business and 245 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:13,000 I've been maintaining my image as 246 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:17,830 a gentleman publisher since 1965 and I 247 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:19,630 think we're up to about three hundred 248 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:21,670 and seven books they're on Amazon 249 00:13:30,060 --> 00:13:26,050 Timofey including the one we just put up 250 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:30,070 today on how to make friends whether 251 00:13:34,170 --> 00:13:32,470 you're familiar so I guess you could 252 00:13:36,990 --> 00:13:34,180 have actually maybe you have Bigfoot 253 00:13:40,710 --> 00:13:37,000 isn't familiar did you come across any 254 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:40,720 of these um you know like footprints a 255 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:43,240 giant footprints in the in the soil now 256 00:13:47,610 --> 00:13:45,670 III looked for him and what spurred me 257 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:47,620 on was was a number of years before I 258 00:13:55,410 --> 00:13:50,410 before I saw the you know the the object 259 00:13:58,620 --> 00:13:55,420 in the sky I was I've always been a 260 00:14:01,950 --> 00:13:58,630 voracious reader and my parents got the 261 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:01,960 the the Kansas City Times which the 262 00:14:06,930 --> 00:14:05,230 newspaper and they always read it so I 263 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:06,940 started you know looking through to see 264 00:14:11,580 --> 00:14:08,530 if any headlines grabbed me when I was 265 00:14:16,110 --> 00:14:11,590 you know like seven years old and one 266 00:14:19,829 --> 00:14:16,120 did and it was about a enormous hairy 267 00:14:22,340 --> 00:14:19,839 man-like creature that mala witnessed 268 00:14:25,290 --> 00:14:22,350 yeah at Louisiana Missouri which was 269 00:14:28,130 --> 00:14:25,300 monster we're gonna have a fellow on in 270 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:28,140 a couple of weeks who has just written a 271 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:31,450 book on Momo well I I remember when that 272 00:14:37,260 --> 00:14:34,810 that case that broke because there was a 273 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:37,270 fella by the name of Hayden Hughes who I 274 00:14:42,329 --> 00:14:39,600 think was one of the original and 275 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:42,339 investigators and he just passed away I 276 00:14:47,940 --> 00:14:45,010 think I a year or so ago he was a just 277 00:14:50,270 --> 00:14:47,950 like us would pretty much maybe in his 278 00:14:57,750 --> 00:14:50,280 early 20s well what year was that I 279 00:15:00,240 --> 00:14:57,760 think was 71 or 72 and tell us a little 280 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:00,250 bit about Momo didn't he have a wasn't 281 00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:03,850 he a three-toed creature right right 282 00:15:08,250 --> 00:15:06,430 yeah yeah I want to talk about the 283 00:15:10,590 --> 00:15:08,260 three-toed here in a minute but but but 284 00:15:14,250 --> 00:15:10,600 but the wall mo case I think it was in 285 00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:14,260 71 was the the first the first sighting 286 00:15:18,450 --> 00:15:16,360 of him and and to two young girls 287 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:18,460 well not young girls young women were 288 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:20,770 we're having a picnic just outside of 289 00:15:27,449 --> 00:15:24,600 town and a in a in a picnic area and 290 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:27,459 they smelled something 291 00:15:30,570 --> 00:15:28,990 they smelled like a family of skunks 292 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:30,580 that was nearby and they were like okay 293 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:32,970 we should probably get out of here and 294 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:36,040 all of a sudden they saw it at the tree 295 00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,350 line cuz they were in a grassy area 296 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:40,480 little park and they sawed the tree line 297 00:15:48,139 --> 00:15:44,040 this about seven to eight foot tall 298 00:15:50,790 --> 00:15:48,149 extremely hairy man-like beast standing 299 00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:50,800 standing there staring at them and you 300 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:52,180 know of course they did what any normal 301 00:15:57,329 --> 00:15:54,450 people would do they screamed and ran 302 00:16:02,460 --> 00:15:57,339 and and they got into their car and shut 303 00:16:05,009 --> 00:16:02,470 the door and then realized oh no their 304 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:05,019 their purses were left on on the picnic 305 00:16:09,630 --> 00:16:06,820 blanket oh boy 306 00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:09,640 so they didn't have keys and and in the 307 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:15,640 monster he's like put his face on the 308 00:16:20,460 --> 00:16:18,490 glass I mean I can't imagine the screams 309 00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:20,470 that were going on and eventually it 310 00:16:24,030 --> 00:16:22,000 walked away and and they were brave 311 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:24,040 enough to go out and you know get their 312 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:26,290 purses and and and the driver you know 313 00:16:31,170 --> 00:16:28,570 put her keys in and went and you know 314 00:16:33,870 --> 00:16:31,180 they went and reported this the next 315 00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:33,880 encounter wasn't for another year and 316 00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:38,140 there were yeah it was it was the first 317 00:16:44,819 --> 00:16:40,240 one was in in 71 and then the other ones 318 00:16:50,490 --> 00:16:44,829 were in were in 72 a 16 year old girl 319 00:16:53,819 --> 00:16:50,500 was washing dishes in her parents 320 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:53,829 kitchen they were they were gone and her 321 00:17:00,769 --> 00:16:56,410 brothers were playing outside and she 322 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:00,779 just happened to look out and saw that 323 00:17:05,819 --> 00:17:03,250 there was something you know the same 324 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:05,829 description it was a huge hairy creature 325 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:08,530 the hair on its head was was pretty much 326 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:12,970 covering covering its face then again it 327 00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:14,890 was it was human shaped and it was 328 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:19,300 staring at her little brothers and she 329 00:17:24,090 --> 00:17:21,970 got went ran outside and screamed and 330 00:17:28,919 --> 00:17:24,100 her brother's turned and saw the monster 331 00:17:30,090 --> 00:17:28,929 and they ran into the house and so you 332 00:17:31,710 --> 00:17:30,100 know they they they didn't have that 333 00:17:33,810 --> 00:17:31,720 kind of encounter you know that the 334 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:33,820 monster was that close but still was 335 00:17:39,299 --> 00:17:35,650 terrifying and when the monster ran off 336 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:39,309 they noticed that it had a dog under a 337 00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:40,570 dead dog under its 338 00:17:45,779 --> 00:17:42,130 it's armed it was carrying this dead 339 00:17:47,999 --> 00:17:45,789 bloody dog and there had been a farmer 340 00:17:50,220 --> 00:17:48,009 not too far away from from this house 341 00:17:53,009 --> 00:17:50,230 that that was missing his dog he 342 00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:53,019 couldn't find it and it there were other 343 00:17:57,060 --> 00:17:55,120 encounters and there were you know they 344 00:17:59,610 --> 00:17:57,070 went out on hunting parties to find it 345 00:18:03,860 --> 00:17:59,620 never could but but you're right with 346 00:18:07,769 --> 00:18:03,870 the three-toed footprint i find this 347 00:18:09,060 --> 00:18:07,779 bizarre because you know most of the 348 00:18:11,460 --> 00:18:09,070 footprints and there have been some 349 00:18:12,210 --> 00:18:11,470 great casts made of footprints that are 350 00:18:16,289 --> 00:18:12,220 oh yeah 351 00:18:17,999 --> 00:18:16,299 enormous human-like footprints but these 352 00:18:21,779 --> 00:18:18,009 had three toes and it wasn't like it was 353 00:18:25,249 --> 00:18:21,789 a deformed foot with three toes it was a 354 00:18:28,139 --> 00:18:25,259 foot that had three toes and this is 355 00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:28,149 okay we've got Momo in Missouri we've 356 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:30,809 got the folk lawn stir down in Arkansas 357 00:18:36,149 --> 00:18:34,210 which The Legend of Boggy Creek and then 358 00:18:38,879 --> 00:18:36,159 we've got the honey island swamp monster 359 00:18:41,789 --> 00:18:38,889 down in Louisiana so all the way down 360 00:18:44,129 --> 00:18:41,799 the Mississippi we've got three reports 361 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:44,139 of three different almost identical 362 00:18:50,039 --> 00:18:46,090 monsters all that have three-toed 363 00:18:52,619 --> 00:18:50,049 footprints so I mean I've wondered for a 364 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:52,629 while if maybe it's the same same 365 00:18:57,659 --> 00:18:54,250 monster that has been you know just 366 00:18:59,970 --> 00:18:57,669 migrates back and forms kind of like the 367 00:19:08,310 --> 00:18:59,980 truck kind of like a [\h__\h] except he's 368 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:08,320 not on a not on a train back pack at all 369 00:19:17,549 --> 00:19:12,850 right probably probably the same family 370 00:19:20,669 --> 00:19:17,559 of monsters yeah well you know animals 371 00:19:22,759 --> 00:19:20,679 travel along waterways so that you know 372 00:19:26,129 --> 00:19:22,769 wouldn't be too far of a stretch I think 373 00:19:29,279 --> 00:19:26,139 now did you go out hunting Momo I mean 374 00:19:33,180 --> 00:19:29,289 not hunting with a gun but looking for 375 00:19:35,999 --> 00:19:33,190 him oh when I was a kid and these see 376 00:19:39,210 --> 00:19:36,009 this gave me validation I liked monsters 377 00:19:42,930 --> 00:19:39,220 and all of a sudden the newspaper was 378 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:42,940 printing stuff about big yeah and yeah I 379 00:19:48,750 --> 00:19:45,070 would like I said I was only about seven 380 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:48,760 at the time and I would you know pack a 381 00:19:54,419 --> 00:19:51,850 bag with some sandwiches bottle of soda 382 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:54,429 pop and a notebook and pencils and I 383 00:20:00,570 --> 00:19:58,090 would go out in the cornfields for hours 384 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:00,580 and hours and hours for big footprints 385 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:02,830 and I never could find him and my mom 386 00:20:12,450 --> 00:20:08,970 welcome a good thing to wait a good 387 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:12,460 thing to was in the corn man we having 388 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:14,110 to come across the cool maybe there is a 389 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:16,330 corn man out there there might be we got 390 00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:18,369 the Ohio grassman there might be a corn 391 00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:20,200 me that's right right and that isn't 392 00:20:25,859 --> 00:20:22,840 there a giant sheep or something to 393 00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:25,869 wandering around I think and in Tim's 394 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:28,590 neck of the wood was there some kind of 395 00:20:34,220 --> 00:20:30,730 what kind of creature is that that's 396 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:34,230 wandering out there oh well I mean 397 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:36,369 naturally I mean we've got the same kind 398 00:20:42,539 --> 00:20:38,710 of hairy cryptids but I mean we also 399 00:20:46,499 --> 00:20:42,549 have the the lake Manitou monster which 400 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:46,509 is a lot more spiky about the one day 401 00:20:54,049 --> 00:20:48,850 you rode up for one of our books goes 402 00:20:56,869 --> 00:20:54,059 back a hundred years or so oh my gosh 403 00:21:01,470 --> 00:20:56,879 front French names oh well there's the 404 00:21:03,060 --> 00:21:01,480 the loop gurus of been celibate sense of 405 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:03,070 course that's what I meant you know that 406 00:21:13,859 --> 00:21:09,100 all along well I mean you know vid 407 00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:13,869 Vincennes was you know French occupied 408 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:17,019 from I mean like the sixteen hundreds so 409 00:21:21,570 --> 00:21:18,970 naturally they would have brought their 410 00:21:23,730 --> 00:21:21,580 you know traditions and folklore and 411 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:23,740 mythology is with them well in 412 00:21:27,450 --> 00:21:25,690 researching the researching the book 413 00:21:31,019 --> 00:21:27,460 that I mean that's what I discovered I 414 00:21:33,539 --> 00:21:31,029 actually talked about it in you know in 415 00:21:36,029 --> 00:21:33,549 the introduction to the book is that a 416 00:21:38,669 --> 00:21:36,039 lot of these creatures you know when 417 00:21:40,350 --> 00:21:38,679 when people moved from from Ireland they 418 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:40,360 didn't you know they didn't just bring 419 00:21:44,009 --> 00:21:42,970 you know food with them to survive the 420 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:44,019 trip they didn't just bring a few 421 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:45,970 heirlooms they they they brought 422 00:21:52,109 --> 00:21:48,129 banshees because their Banshee accounts 423 00:21:53,789 --> 00:21:52,119 here in in America when when the Cornish 424 00:21:55,649 --> 00:21:53,799 miners from Cornwall England were 425 00:21:57,749 --> 00:21:55,659 brought over to mine in Pennsylvania and 426 00:21:58,830 --> 00:21:57,759 and the gold mines in California they 427 00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:58,840 they brought with them the the 428 00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:01,600 Tommyknockers and then the the 429 00:22:06,909 --> 00:22:03,609 loup-garou as well with with the French 430 00:22:09,310 --> 00:22:06,919 so you know when people come 431 00:22:11,169 --> 00:22:09,320 did they bring bring the breather beast 432 00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:11,179 with them which is absolutely 433 00:22:16,629 --> 00:22:14,929 fascinating to me that is that it makes 434 00:22:19,450 --> 00:22:16,639 me it makes me wonder you know when you 435 00:22:22,239 --> 00:22:19,460 have unique cases say like the you know 436 00:22:24,099 --> 00:22:22,249 Point Pleasant Mothman you know it makes 437 00:22:27,070 --> 00:22:24,109 you wonder whether or not there is some 438 00:22:28,629 --> 00:22:27,080 kind of you know like old European 439 00:22:30,310 --> 00:22:28,639 heritage I mean you know of course 440 00:22:33,789 --> 00:22:30,320 people have looked into the Native 441 00:22:36,279 --> 00:22:33,799 American laws of that area but you know 442 00:22:38,049 --> 00:22:36,289 now you've got me wondering and yeah you 443 00:22:40,269 --> 00:22:38,059 should look into that to see if there's 444 00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,279 any kind of connection right and there 445 00:22:44,769 --> 00:22:42,559 are two different things that that cross 446 00:22:47,049 --> 00:22:44,779 my mind about this one they somehow 447 00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:47,059 brought the they're monsters and they're 448 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:50,200 they're beasts with them or or you know 449 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:52,369 that there may be you know there are old 450 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:54,590 entities out there elemental type in a 451 00:22:58,930 --> 00:22:55,970 tease 452 00:23:02,310 --> 00:22:58,940 maybe the legends when the legends are 453 00:23:07,239 --> 00:23:02,320 being passed down from grandfather to 454 00:23:09,399 --> 00:23:07,249 father to grandson and so on maybe these 455 00:23:11,950 --> 00:23:09,409 these you know elemental type entities 456 00:23:13,869 --> 00:23:11,960 are taking taking the guise of these 457 00:23:16,210 --> 00:23:13,879 these old monsters that are talked about 458 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:16,220 so much well that's a good point 459 00:23:21,879 --> 00:23:20,210 listening in taking notes right you talk 460 00:23:24,909 --> 00:23:21,889 about something enough a Tulpas gonna 461 00:23:27,399 --> 00:23:24,919 show up every now and again mmm that's 462 00:23:30,430 --> 00:23:27,409 you know Tim that that's that's 463 00:23:39,820 --> 00:23:30,440 reminiscent of my book about Jeff the 464 00:23:44,499 --> 00:23:39,830 talking Mongoose that's one of our 465 00:23:47,649 --> 00:23:44,509 favorites we just came out with a book 466 00:23:51,099 --> 00:23:47,659 that contains the original manuscript by 467 00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:51,109 Harry price who investigated that back 468 00:23:58,389 --> 00:23:55,039 end what was in the mid 1930s early 469 00:23:59,919 --> 00:23:58,399 early to middle 1930s and Tim we're 470 00:24:02,259 --> 00:23:59,929 gonna have to interrupt this 471 00:24:04,599 --> 00:24:02,269 conversation because we are coming up to 472 00:24:05,889 --> 00:24:04,609 our bottom of the hour break so when we 473 00:24:09,220 --> 00:24:05,899 come back we will continue our 474 00:24:12,639 --> 00:24:09,230 conversation with a Jason Offutt talking 475 00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:12,649 about chasing American monsters on 476 00:24:25,889 --> 00:24:15,590 exploring a bizarre well Jeff will keep 477 00:24:32,620 --> 00:24:30,039 now back to exploring the bazaars with 478 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:32,630 two of the most electrifying researchers 479 00:24:41,769 --> 00:24:35,929 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca 480 00:24:43,749 --> 00:24:41,779 Lee and team sports and welcome back to 481 00:24:46,860 --> 00:24:43,759 exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwarz and 482 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:46,870 night we're talking with Jason Offit and 483 00:24:53,049 --> 00:24:50,720 Jason in your latest book chasing 484 00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:53,059 American monsters I mean you know you 485 00:25:00,009 --> 00:24:56,470 have what I say here like you know over 486 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:00,019 250 creatures cryptids and hairy beasts 487 00:25:06,129 --> 00:25:03,529 from you know all the states it looks 488 00:25:10,060 --> 00:25:06,139 like and okay just taking for example 489 00:25:12,669 --> 00:25:10,070 Missouri some of the amazing cryptids 490 00:25:14,259 --> 00:25:12,679 that have been reported there like the 491 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:14,269 space penguins now you know don't you 492 00:25:18,970 --> 00:25:15,679 wish you know when you were a kid you 493 00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:18,980 had had the opportunity to to look into 494 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:21,500 those cases and now here you are as an 495 00:25:26,980 --> 00:25:24,620 adult being able to do that I know I 496 00:25:29,379 --> 00:25:26,990 mean the fun ones happened before you 497 00:25:41,490 --> 00:25:29,389 know before I could do anything about it 498 00:25:44,619 --> 00:25:41,500 I I know that feeling well this was in 499 00:25:46,930 --> 00:25:44,629 1967 on Valentine's Day there was a 500 00:25:49,570 --> 00:25:46,940 farmer his name was Claude Edwards who 501 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:49,580 walked outside of his farmhouse and he 502 00:25:56,529 --> 00:25:52,610 noticed that there was a large metal 503 00:26:00,519 --> 00:25:56,539 green mushroom sitting in one of his 504 00:26:02,139 --> 00:26:00,529 fields and so he walked out to take a 505 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:02,149 look at it and when he when he got close 506 00:26:06,639 --> 00:26:04,129 he saw that there were a number of 507 00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:06,649 creatures milling around the base of 508 00:26:13,629 --> 00:26:09,980 this mushroom they were about 3 feet 509 00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:13,639 tall green and they looked like waddling 510 00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:18,320 penguins that's wild 511 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:21,860 that is and and the eyes were large and 512 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:25,370 in black and I mean I think about what 513 00:26:29,820 --> 00:26:28,010 people do you you sure he wasn't chewing 514 00:26:33,399 --> 00:26:29,830 on that mushroom 515 00:26:37,379 --> 00:26:33,409 might have broken a tooth was metal Oh 516 00:26:40,980 --> 00:26:37,389 oh yeah well that's what they all say if 517 00:26:44,970 --> 00:26:40,990 we interviewed a fellow there in 518 00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:44,980 Scotland who had a really dramatic UFO 519 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:48,110 sighting and these ball bearing type 520 00:26:53,259 --> 00:26:50,330 objects rolled out from underneath the 521 00:26:57,970 --> 00:26:53,269 the craft and attacked him and ripped 522 00:26:59,620 --> 00:26:57,980 his pants and the skeptics said well he 523 00:27:02,769 --> 00:26:59,630 was hallucinating because he had a 524 00:27:06,639 --> 00:27:02,779 handful of wild berries so we got 525 00:27:09,129 --> 00:27:06,649 mushrooms and berries and dancing green 526 00:27:19,899 --> 00:27:09,139 penguins now what we have mainly is 527 00:27:22,149 --> 00:27:19,909 excuses I always pegged were a little 528 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:22,159 smarter than we get they must have been 529 00:27:27,399 --> 00:27:24,740 the penguin from Batman I would I would 530 00:27:30,580 --> 00:27:27,409 guess we're just Meredith they all look 531 00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:30,590 like burgess Meredith yes what would you 532 00:27:35,860 --> 00:27:33,070 say that that's the most peculiar 533 00:27:38,830 --> 00:27:35,870 equipted if you can even put it in that 534 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:38,840 category that you've heard of or are 535 00:27:42,850 --> 00:27:40,610 there cases that are even stranger than 536 00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:42,860 that well when it comes whether they're 537 00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:45,470 always no matter how strange you get the 538 00:27:50,879 --> 00:27:48,260 world 1ups you and there's even stranger 539 00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:50,889 ones but but with this I mean okay he 540 00:27:56,259 --> 00:27:53,960 the the end of the story is I mean I 541 00:27:58,419 --> 00:27:56,269 would have went back you know gone going 542 00:28:00,399 --> 00:27:58,429 back to my house maybe gotten a shotgun 543 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:00,409 or a camera or something but this guy 544 00:28:05,740 --> 00:28:02,450 picked up rocks and started throwing 545 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:05,750 them at the Penguins and they bounced 546 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:08,870 off what you know was basically a force 547 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:12,080 shield and invisible when like like on 548 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:16,130 Star Trek and the the Penguins noticed 549 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:17,809 him and turned around and got back into 550 00:28:24,129 --> 00:28:20,210 them to the giant metallic mushroom and 551 00:28:27,789 --> 00:28:24,139 and went took off into into the air the 552 00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:27,799 thing that really hits me on this is the 553 00:28:32,769 --> 00:28:30,740 description of the Penguins three feet 554 00:28:34,269 --> 00:28:32,779 tall the colors are relevant they were 555 00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:34,279 green that's kind of irrelevant there 556 00:28:39,210 --> 00:28:36,049 were three feet tall and had really 557 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:39,220 large black eyes and with a lot of 558 00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:42,840 classic abduction encounter 559 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:45,000 you know a lot of times the the people 560 00:28:49,730 --> 00:28:47,370 will report well I was I found myself 561 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:49,740 outside and there were these really 562 00:28:54,830 --> 00:28:52,560 large rabbits with big black eyes so 563 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:54,840 there were these deer with big black 564 00:29:02,150 --> 00:28:56,450 eyes or there were these really large 565 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:02,160 owls but they you gotta throw in a 566 00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:04,050 couple of hours they're gotta throw in 567 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:06,360 the Owls so wait with this encounter I'm 568 00:29:11,390 --> 00:29:08,250 just speculating of course what this is 569 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:11,400 is if this guy really saw that and 570 00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:14,330 wasn't chewing on the magic mushroom 571 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:18,060 maybe this was was was you know a you 572 00:29:24,620 --> 00:29:20,250 know stereotypical type gray encounter 573 00:29:27,020 --> 00:29:24,630 and they just put into his head what he 574 00:29:28,670 --> 00:29:27,030 thought was you know the most adorable 575 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:28,680 and least dangerous creature he could 576 00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:31,290 think of which would be a penguin 577 00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:34,740 they're pretty adored yeah yeah yeah 578 00:29:41,510 --> 00:29:39,270 well how do what what do you make of we 579 00:29:44,540 --> 00:29:41,520 were making light of this earlier but 580 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,550 what do you make of these cases that 581 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:47,520 have crept up on us recently of this a 582 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:50,340 dog that man who has the body of Arnold 583 00:29:57,350 --> 00:29:52,910 Schwarzenegger in the face of a bulldog 584 00:30:01,700 --> 00:29:57,360 well I mean on the on the surface I'm 585 00:30:02,270 --> 00:30:01,710 like really it's it's a big dog it's a 586 00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:02,280 dog 587 00:30:11,150 --> 00:30:07,380 sort of a hairy human torso but it's 588 00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:11,160 it's really muscular but I mean the 589 00:30:16,010 --> 00:30:12,480 people I've talked with who've had these 590 00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:16,020 encounters have been pretty pretty 591 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:20,100 convincing and and the one that 592 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:21,810 convinced me the most that there is 593 00:30:26,540 --> 00:30:24,210 something to this beside the fact that 594 00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:26,550 there are Native American stories about 595 00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:29,670 these the story that really got me was a 596 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:32,640 friend of mine talked to me about it 597 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:35,610 and I mean this is a guy I trust and I 598 00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:39,810 mean he wasn't lying to me he was 599 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:41,880 serious and kind of scared when he told 600 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:45,570 me this story but he ain't a friend like 601 00:30:50,350 --> 00:30:47,130 to go to this Cemetery 602 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:50,360 in in in mid-missouri it sits off a 603 00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:54,510 rural highway on a dirt road that goes 604 00:30:59,940 --> 00:30:56,230 down a couple of hills 605 00:31:01,320 --> 00:30:59,950 and this cemetery sits up on a hill and 606 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:01,330 it's really inviting because there's a 607 00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,250 big wooden cross somebody set fire to at 608 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:05,919 one point so it's nice and charred but 609 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:08,710 the cemetery does some weird things like 610 00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:10,990 he's mapped it before and the next time 611 00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:13,440 he's gone back the tombstones and and 612 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:16,020 trees have been in different positions 613 00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:18,640 he's done that more than once but but he 614 00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:21,419 and his another buddy were there and 615 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:23,470 nothing was really going on so they 616 00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:25,090 decided to leave around 10 or 11 o'clock 617 00:31:29,310 --> 00:31:27,880 at night and it was Wuornos in the 618 00:31:31,289 --> 00:31:29,320 summer said that they had their windows 619 00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:31,299 rolled down and they and they went down 620 00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:34,000 one of the hills and there was a dog in 621 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:36,549 the middle of the dirt road it was like 622 00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:40,090 it was eating like roadkill and they 623 00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:42,040 stopped about 20 feet from it and they 624 00:31:47,130 --> 00:31:44,169 could smell wet dog coming through the 625 00:31:49,530 --> 00:31:47,140 window and you know that's an awful 626 00:31:51,890 --> 00:31:49,540 smell and they got tired of waiting for 627 00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:51,900 it to move so the driver honked his horn 628 00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:54,190 and this thing turned its head toward 629 00:32:00,600 --> 00:31:58,240 them and its eyes glowed yellow in in 630 00:32:03,150 --> 00:32:00,610 the in the headlights and all of a 631 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:03,160 sudden it stood up and it was about six 632 00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:05,290 feet tall and it was on its hind legs 633 00:32:09,870 --> 00:32:08,230 and it stared them down as it walked to 634 00:32:12,570 --> 00:32:09,880 the side of the road and disappeared 635 00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:12,580 into the trees I of course at that point 636 00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:13,990 they rolled up their windows locked the 637 00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:15,390 door and got the hell out of there but 638 00:32:22,980 --> 00:32:19,740 they saw this dog stand on two legs and 639 00:32:25,230 --> 00:32:22,990 give them the eye as it you know walked 640 00:32:29,789 --> 00:32:25,240 walked off the walked off the road 641 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:29,799 hmm mm-hmm did they say was it and did 642 00:32:35,250 --> 00:32:31,630 it appear to be a normal sized dog at 643 00:32:37,020 --> 00:32:35,260 first it was yeah it was they said it 644 00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:37,030 would or he said that it was just it 645 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:38,980 wasn't really it was a big dog but it 646 00:32:45,870 --> 00:32:41,530 wasn't you know out of the realm of the 647 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:45,880 size of dog should be mm-hmm until it 648 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:52,690 stood up well you know and at one time I 649 00:32:57,270 --> 00:32:54,730 mean before I think the dog man meme 650 00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:57,280 kind of became popular you know someone 651 00:33:02,990 --> 00:32:59,200 would people would say oh that was that 652 00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:08,120 well yeah but I mean thinking about 653 00:33:11,870 --> 00:33:09,760 werewolves or 654 00:33:14,940 --> 00:33:11,880 or dogs that stand on their hind legs 655 00:33:18,930 --> 00:33:14,950 yeah which ones a little bit more 656 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:18,940 believable I'll stay I'll stick with 657 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:24,610 Bigfoot thank you okay now from the 658 00:33:30,990 --> 00:33:27,610 research Jason that you did for chasing 659 00:33:34,550 --> 00:33:31,000 American monsters was there any 660 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:34,560 particular a cryptid that seemed to be 661 00:33:39,780 --> 00:33:37,930 consistent no matter where you know you 662 00:33:40,770 --> 00:33:39,790 would go you know one side of the 663 00:33:44,270 --> 00:33:40,780 country to the other 664 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:44,280 you're you're going to find stories 665 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:01,530 no there no because a lot okay let's go 666 00:34:06,630 --> 00:34:03,790 stick with Bigfoot's for a second a lot 667 00:34:08,129 --> 00:34:06,640 of the Bigfoot encounters are of the 668 00:34:11,190 --> 00:34:08,139 same type of creature anything between 669 00:34:13,159 --> 00:34:11,200 like 6 and 9 feet tall probably about 670 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:13,169 five to eight hundred pounds hairy 671 00:34:20,369 --> 00:34:17,350 ape-like and walks like a man but then 672 00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,379 again there are similar ones that the 673 00:34:24,930 --> 00:34:22,480 thing has a human-like face it's just a 674 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:24,940 lot more human than eight and then we've 675 00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:27,490 got you know the the michalak skunk ape 676 00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:29,080 down in Florida that looks more like an 677 00:34:33,810 --> 00:34:31,300 orangutan and then we've got other ones 678 00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:33,820 that are tall and skinny in New 679 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Hampshire and and then we've got some 680 00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:39,610 that look more like chimpanzees so they 681 00:34:47,129 --> 00:34:43,750 do have this variation but there's a lot 682 00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:47,139 of encounters with each one of them so 683 00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:51,960 the individual you know individual types 684 00:34:58,170 --> 00:34:54,190 species variations whatever you want to 685 00:35:04,730 --> 00:34:58,180 call them are fairly consistent well I 686 00:35:08,970 --> 00:35:04,740 know that here in Indiana you had two 687 00:35:12,690 --> 00:35:08,980 water creatures listed you had the the 688 00:35:17,370 --> 00:35:12,700 Ohio River Gill man and then the the 689 00:35:19,020 --> 00:35:17,380 beasts Beast of busco busca I couldn't 690 00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:19,030 remember how its how it's pronounced and 691 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:22,240 I've been to the pond where the the 692 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:23,410 giant turtles 693 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:25,210 supposedly was and it's not a big pond 694 00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:27,610 so if there was a turtle there of that 695 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:30,550 size I think the reports of that it was 696 00:35:36,540 --> 00:35:32,740 as big as a dining room table that's a 697 00:35:38,940 --> 00:35:36,550 big turtle right well it's I mean later 698 00:35:43,530 --> 00:35:38,950 the stories grew and the shell was as 699 00:35:45,660 --> 00:35:43,540 big as the roof of a car yeah so I'm 700 00:35:47,970 --> 00:35:45,670 really dubious about a lot of a lot of 701 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:47,980 water monsters unless we're talking an 702 00:35:54,090 --> 00:35:51,790 ocean if it's a seagoing monster all 703 00:35:58,260 --> 00:35:54,100 bets are off there but but if it's a 704 00:36:02,040 --> 00:35:58,270 lake monster I mean a lake is if it's a 705 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:02,050 contained Lake somebody would have would 706 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:03,910 have shot the thing somebody would have 707 00:36:09,450 --> 00:36:05,800 hauled it in with a net I don't care how 708 00:36:12,270 --> 00:36:09,460 big a big it is a stub steamboat would 709 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:12,280 have run over its head at some point you 710 00:36:17,190 --> 00:36:14,250 know and there are a lot of different 711 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:17,200 different lakes in in the United States 712 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:20,440 that are man-made reservoirs that have 713 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:23,490 like big you know please Yasur stories 714 00:36:28,830 --> 00:36:27,310 yeah I I'm not I'm not necessarily 715 00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:28,840 buying that but but when you go to the 716 00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:31,360 ocean or even something as bit like Lake 717 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:35,320 Champlain that's a big lake well I mean 718 00:36:40,290 --> 00:36:37,660 you know you look at some of these 719 00:36:43,740 --> 00:36:40,300 stories that come from say like Ireland 720 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:43,750 where you have these basically they're 721 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:48,570 just nothing more than peat bogs and but 722 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:51,490 very good reports about people seeing 723 00:36:59,790 --> 00:36:55,530 you know like a strange strange beasties 724 00:37:01,440 --> 00:36:59,800 in in these waters so and of course the 725 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:01,450 speculation there was that you know 726 00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:03,370 these these little ponds are so close 727 00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:05,320 together that whatever gets in there is 728 00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:07,480 able to move from from Lake to Lake 729 00:37:11,130 --> 00:37:09,550 which that brings me back you know we 730 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:11,140 were talking about you know Momo and 731 00:37:16,340 --> 00:37:14,080 some of these other Bigfoot types of 732 00:37:19,470 --> 00:37:16,350 creatures you know it seems to me that 733 00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:19,480 there's a good possibility that some of 734 00:37:25,830 --> 00:37:22,600 them probably do travel around using you 735 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:25,840 know like rivers and creeks and things 736 00:37:30,210 --> 00:37:27,370 like that right 737 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:30,220 and yeah absolutely I mean when it comes 738 00:37:36,450 --> 00:37:33,850 to again just animals in general they 739 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:36,460 they use waterways to travel because you 740 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:37,119 know other 741 00:37:43,410 --> 00:37:38,890 animals come to waterways and hey I can 742 00:37:46,289 --> 00:37:43,420 eat that one I've got something to drink 743 00:37:51,029 --> 00:37:46,299 so I mean III definitely definitely am 744 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:51,039 behind that but when it comes to you 745 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:53,170 know again just monsters from the water 746 00:37:58,829 --> 00:37:56,230 and I'm just I'm really really dubious 747 00:38:01,380 --> 00:37:58,839 over most of them like I can in in 748 00:38:03,660 --> 00:38:01,390 Oklahoma there's allegedly a knock John 749 00:38:07,739 --> 00:38:03,670 octopus that lives in a couple of the 750 00:38:11,579 --> 00:38:07,749 lakes in Oklahoma yeah yeah fresh 751 00:38:13,410 --> 00:38:11,589 freshwater octopus it's a fun story 752 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:13,420 though I think it's not every story I 753 00:38:20,269 --> 00:38:16,930 put in in in chasing American Monsters 754 00:38:23,339 --> 00:38:20,279 am I saying this monster exists no I'm I 755 00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:23,349 I was a journalist for 17 years and for 756 00:38:30,839 --> 00:38:25,230 the past 14 years I've taught journalism 757 00:38:32,849 --> 00:38:30,849 so I I'm a storyteller so I tell the 758 00:38:35,039 --> 00:38:32,859 stories of a lot of these or of all of 759 00:38:36,749 --> 00:38:35,049 these but I think you know there are a 760 00:38:42,839 --> 00:38:36,759 number of these in here that I think are 761 00:38:46,769 --> 00:38:42,849 100% true when it comes to teaching your 762 00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:46,779 classes on journalism now I know you 763 00:38:53,249 --> 00:38:49,089 know you're not going to you know teach 764 00:38:56,249 --> 00:38:53,259 your kids on on how to write about 765 00:38:58,589 --> 00:38:56,259 things like this but don't be too sure 766 00:39:00,749 --> 00:38:58,599 well okay that's you know my question 767 00:39:05,609 --> 00:39:00,759 you know it was more is more 768 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:05,619 it's do you teach them how to look at 769 00:39:12,979 --> 00:39:09,430 stories like this in a journalistic 770 00:39:15,690 --> 00:39:12,989 fashion rather than just immediately be 771 00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:15,700 be skeptical about it yeah I don't know 772 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:17,710 if I'm framing that question are you 773 00:39:23,370 --> 00:39:19,930 absolutely are framing it correctly and 774 00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:23,380 I have I mean I I teach I teach 775 00:39:30,269 --> 00:39:28,480 reporting classes and the students know 776 00:39:31,769 --> 00:39:30,279 that I write these books he'll the 777 00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:31,779 administration knows and they're okay 778 00:39:34,769 --> 00:39:34,299 with it so good for them they're good 779 00:39:38,099 --> 00:39:34,779 people 780 00:39:41,729 --> 00:39:38,109 I offer occasionally offer a class that 781 00:39:42,509 --> 00:39:41,739 is called paranormal journalism and in 782 00:39:47,609 --> 00:39:42,519 that class 783 00:39:49,050 --> 00:39:47,619 my main goal was to teach these budding 784 00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:49,060 young journalists 785 00:39:55,950 --> 00:39:53,220 how to write stories about UFOs 786 00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:55,960 sightings about Bigfoot encounters about 787 00:40:02,430 --> 00:39:58,560 you know haunting in somebody's house 788 00:40:03,870 --> 00:40:02,440 with the straight face they need when 789 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:03,880 they're covering a city council meeting 790 00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:07,390 if they're covering a you know a holdup 791 00:40:13,620 --> 00:40:11,470 in a bank they need to be able to write 792 00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:13,630 that story as seriously as they possibly 793 00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:16,390 can and and I got plenty of stories as 794 00:40:22,050 --> 00:40:18,940 examples of what not to do because I 795 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:22,060 mean if it's a if it's a haunting and 796 00:40:26,430 --> 00:40:24,310 and somebody's doing a feature piece on 797 00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:26,440 this group going in and investigating 798 00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:28,030 this haunting they always reference 799 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:30,550 Ghostbusters if it's a Bigfoot account 800 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:32,170 they reference Harry and the Hendersons 801 00:40:37,950 --> 00:40:36,010 if it's a TV show or if it's TV news and 802 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:37,960 they're talking about UFOs you always 803 00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:41,110 hear the x-files theme song and all this 804 00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:43,000 does it doesn't matter how the rest of 805 00:40:46,740 --> 00:40:45,070 the story goes some of the rest of these 806 00:40:49,650 --> 00:40:46,750 stories of it that I've died uses 807 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:49,660 examples to treat the subject seriously 808 00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:51,760 but as soon as they reference pop 809 00:40:59,940 --> 00:40:54,340 culture in the lead you know it's a joke 810 00:41:02,460 --> 00:40:59,950 the whole thing is like a joke so you 811 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:02,470 know I always say here you watch your 812 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:05,170 typical news of brick broadcast no it's 813 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:07,570 not quite as bad as it used to be but 814 00:41:13,230 --> 00:41:09,850 they always end up you know with a smirk 815 00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:13,240 on their face and and and making light 816 00:41:19,830 --> 00:41:16,480 of the incident even if there were 817 00:41:22,110 --> 00:41:19,840 credible witnesses involved or fifty 818 00:41:24,060 --> 00:41:22,120 people looking up at the sky they'll 819 00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:24,070 still make some comment about somebody 820 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:26,860 out having a you know too many beers on 821 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:29,950 a Saturday night and I know quite a few 822 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:31,510 people that have had too many beers on a 823 00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:33,370 Saturday night and man they've never 824 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:35,950 reported a UFO in their life they had no 825 00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:38,410 interest in that you know I mean it's a 826 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:40,140 you know I mean it's just like 827 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:42,460 somebody's imagination where they got to 828 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:44,770 come up with an explanation that's often 829 00:41:49,860 --> 00:41:48,010 a crazier than you know what the 830 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:49,870 witnesses say that they've actually 831 00:41:55,770 --> 00:41:54,250 observed right and you know I've always 832 00:41:58,170 --> 00:41:55,780 found that beer too many beers on the 833 00:41:59,940 --> 00:41:58,180 Saturday night will make you see UFOs it 834 00:42:02,820 --> 00:41:59,950 I've had too many beers on a Saturday 835 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:02,830 night didn't know it doesn't know not 836 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:04,690 you know I'm noir pink elephants I've 837 00:42:09,330 --> 00:42:07,000 never been anybody get that pink eye I 838 00:42:11,550 --> 00:42:09,340 hung out with some rock and rollers man 839 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:11,560 and these guys would it would would 840 00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:14,770 drink you know a biker under the table 841 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:16,990 and and well someone did have UFO 842 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:18,720 sightings we had nothing to do with them 843 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:21,730 drinking you know I mean not whatsoever 844 00:42:27,690 --> 00:42:25,210 and you're more likely to run into maybe 845 00:42:30,450 --> 00:42:27,700 a Bigfoot when you've been out in the 846 00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:30,460 woods I having a couple of marshmallows 847 00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:34,540 or you know a bruise or something like 848 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:36,430 that Dean and you are at UFOs because 849 00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:39,130 UFOs usually really just kind of sneak 850 00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:41,350 up on you you know you don't you don't 851 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:43,390 have a chance to grab a beer say oh I've 852 00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:45,250 got another front porch or watch this 853 00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:49,270 thing you know yeah but at when it when 854 00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:51,940 it when it comes back to journalism and 855 00:42:58,050 --> 00:42:54,160 and the students said every time I teach 856 00:43:01,980 --> 00:42:58,060 that class the kids are absolutely blown 857 00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:01,990 away by the amount of evidence for all 858 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:04,510 the paranormal topics I discuss and 859 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:06,130 they're also blown away by the fact that 860 00:43:09,450 --> 00:43:07,570 because they they always say there's no 861 00:43:12,930 --> 00:43:09,460 way I'm gonna be able to come up with a 862 00:43:14,670 --> 00:43:12,940 good news story every week about these 863 00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:14,680 paranormal encounters nobody sees this 864 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:16,000 stuff and then it by the end of the 865 00:43:20,490 --> 00:43:18,370 semester they're like I could write 866 00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:20,500 about this the rest of my life because 867 00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:23,800 hey everybody has a story now you you 868 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:26,290 you have a book here which I find it a 869 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:28,450 very intriguing title how to kill 870 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:31,930 monsters using common household items 871 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:36,010 what household items do you use well it 872 00:43:45,450 --> 00:43:42,800 yes yeah let's go let's go to werewolves 873 00:43:46,620 --> 00:43:45,460 one of the one of the things mainly to 874 00:43:48,090 --> 00:43:46,630 do with werewolves cuz they're covered 875 00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:48,100 with hair so they're really combustible 876 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:49,840 keep a lot of open bottles of vodka 877 00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:52,450 around the house I mean if you're having 878 00:43:56,070 --> 00:43:54,250 people over - you know you're you know 879 00:43:57,930 --> 00:43:56,080 you know you kids are having friends 880 00:43:59,460 --> 00:43:57,940 over you know the parents might not like 881 00:44:01,080 --> 00:43:59,470 that but you know tough you're you're 882 00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:01,090 worried about protecting yourself and 883 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:03,520 your family you know so just throw a 884 00:44:08,070 --> 00:44:05,710 bottle at a werewolf start smoking 885 00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:08,080 cigars toss that boom the werewolf 886 00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:10,750 problems gone if you don't have enough 887 00:44:15,250 --> 00:44:13,350 time to light the cigar have a cat 888 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:15,260 because a cat is a 889 00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:17,690 werewolf distraction device just throw 890 00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:19,910 it and the world was gonna go after the 891 00:44:24,370 --> 00:44:23,030 cat before it goes after you order yeah 892 00:44:27,340 --> 00:44:24,380 it'll give you plenty of time to light 893 00:44:30,250 --> 00:44:27,350 light the light the lighter yeah I 894 00:44:33,220 --> 00:44:30,260 covered all sorts of things I you know 895 00:44:35,140 --> 00:44:33,230 covered clowns eat clowns are evil 896 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:35,150 not every clown is evil but there are a 897 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:39,650 lot of evil we know that that we know 898 00:44:45,310 --> 00:44:43,310 about clowns I mean John John keel and I 899 00:44:47,890 --> 00:44:45,320 one time we went to see one of our 900 00:44:48,490 --> 00:44:47,900 favorite movies killer clowns from outer 901 00:44:53,650 --> 00:44:48,500 space 902 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:53,660 not our so we don't think they're aliens 903 00:45:00,700 --> 00:44:56,210 disguising themselves as clowns coming 904 00:45:05,530 --> 00:45:00,710 here and the UFOs look like circus tents 905 00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:05,540 right you know it I mean the book the 906 00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:08,030 first of the first made-for-tv movie the 907 00:45:11,860 --> 00:45:10,310 the movies they came out with now I've 908 00:45:14,170 --> 00:45:11,870 always had a problem with clowns and 909 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:14,180 people say Jason you you don't really 910 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:15,650 haven't read it and you don't watch 911 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:17,450 these movies right and I'm like are you 912 00:45:23,830 --> 00:45:21,170 kidding these this is a documentary this 913 00:45:26,530 --> 00:45:23,840 is not fiction this is a true story to 914 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:26,540 teach you how to defeat the clown but 915 00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:28,130 one of my suggestions in the book is 916 00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:30,320 make sure you got a lot of tin pie 917 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:33,040 plates okay fill it full of concrete 918 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:36,050 because a clown cannot resist a pie to 919 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:37,910 the face they come into your house you 920 00:45:42,010 --> 00:45:39,770 pick up the pie tin they want a pie to 921 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:42,020 the face full of concrete you're done 922 00:45:47,770 --> 00:45:45,710 with your beer clown infestation good 923 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:47,780 point good by the way this is a parody 924 00:45:56,380 --> 00:45:51,650 book parody Survival Guide please do not 925 00:45:59,350 --> 00:45:56,390 hit a clown in the face with listeners 926 00:46:02,830 --> 00:45:59,360 please do not do that at least not one 927 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:02,840 made at a concrete I would I would I 928 00:46:08,050 --> 00:46:04,970 would I would assume yeah use the cotton 929 00:46:10,330 --> 00:46:08,060 candy like in the like in the movie just 930 00:46:15,010 --> 00:46:10,340 swirl it around twirling around your 931 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:15,020 your favorite alien clown and and and 932 00:46:19,870 --> 00:46:17,510 the world will be safe again anyway you 933 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:19,880 know what we're we're hitting a towards 934 00:46:28,540 --> 00:46:23,450 the end of the program here and we 935 00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:28,550 should provide a minute or two here for 936 00:46:31,569 --> 00:46:29,119 our guests 937 00:46:34,359 --> 00:46:31,579 to tell people where they can find him 938 00:46:38,980 --> 00:46:34,369 on the internet and where to get the 939 00:46:41,710 --> 00:46:38,990 these great books because each one of 940 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:41,720 them sounds better than the next okay 941 00:46:49,690 --> 00:46:44,930 yeah I've got a website it's Jason off 942 00:46:51,970 --> 00:46:49,700 it JSON Oh F fut t-dot-com 943 00:46:55,230 --> 00:46:51,980 I've got all sorts of fun stuff I've got 944 00:46:57,940 --> 00:46:55,240 links to all my books I've got not just 945 00:47:02,460 --> 00:46:57,950 paranormal titles I've got a few humor 946 00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:02,470 titles and some novels that I've written 947 00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:05,390 also have contact information if you 948 00:47:10,150 --> 00:47:07,640 want to want to get a hold of me I've 949 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:10,160 got a blog up there I don't update as 950 00:47:15,069 --> 00:47:13,249 much as I should but anyway I've got to 951 00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:15,079 get a lot of stuff on the website I'm 952 00:47:21,489 --> 00:47:16,880 also on Facebook Twitter and Instagram 953 00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:21,499 if you want to hit me up there well you 954 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:26,990 are a man of many motifs I know that's 955 00:47:32,890 --> 00:47:30,410 quite the right word but what's your 956 00:47:35,739 --> 00:47:32,900 next a Bigfoot adventure or your next ed 957 00:47:37,569 --> 00:47:35,749 monster hunt well I guess I'm not gonna 958 00:47:39,489 --> 00:47:37,579 be doing Momoa for a couple of years 959 00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:39,499 I've always wanted to write a book on 960 00:47:45,819 --> 00:47:42,230 Momo and I was I was beaten to it so 961 00:47:47,410 --> 00:47:45,829 I'll wait a couple years in May let well 962 00:47:52,569 --> 00:47:47,420 there's a lot there's a lot of other 963 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:52,579 creatures and and monsters out there to 964 00:47:58,779 --> 00:47:56,450 be had and we will be having them from 965 00:48:01,620 --> 00:47:58,789 time to time here at Tim on exploring 966 00:48:05,829 --> 00:48:01,630 the bazaar and once again thank you for 967 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:05,839 your insights that some of the greatest 968 00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:14,250 you've been listening to exploring the 969 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:17,470 bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley 970 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:21,010 panting Swartz they're taking back the 971 00:48:25,830 --> 00:48:23,290 night by jetting non-stop across the 972 00:48:29,130 --> 00:48:25,840 cosmos in search of the truly bizarre 973 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:29,140 and totally unexplained with you as 974 00:48:36,270 --> 00:48:32,500 their combined Thursday nights at 7:00 975 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:36,280 p.m. Pacific 10:00 p.m. Eastern and the 976 00:48:41,420 --> 00:48:38,970 K cor digital radio 977 00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:41,430 for more information on exploring the 978 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:44,880 bazaar and hosts Timothy Becky and Tim 979 00:48:50,809 --> 00:48:47,730 Swartz check out their kco our digital 980 00:48:57,050 --> 00:48:50,819 radio network follow their YouTube